South African police say violent crime is down
AP , Pretoria: Jun 30 2008
Made Popular Jun 30 2008
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Crime rates in South Africa _ among the highest in the world _ are declining with fewer robberies, rapes and murders reported in the last year, police said Monday.

But there are still more than 50 people killed every day _ a statistic that has helped the country earn an international reputation for violence. And the number of children murdered went up by 22.2 percent, police said.

The government welcomed the overall declines, but said crime levels were still much too high as South Africa prepares to host the 2010 World Cup soccer tournament.

“The government is still concerned that, while they are going down, the levels of crime continue to be unacceptably high,” Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula said.

Police said crime statistics from April 2007 to March 2008 show the number of murders dropped 4.7 percent to 18,487, compared with the previous year.

Incidents of rape in the same period decreased 8.8 percent, but this still amounted to a staggering 36,000 women raped.

Nqakula said that the number of rapes, even if less than in the last year, was still too high to indicate the “scourge is lessening.”

“The government would have wanted to see a more drastic decrease” in crime rates, the minister said.

The number of children murdered went up 22.2 percent, from 1,152 to 1,410, said Chris de Kock, head of crime information management for the police.

Most of those victims were aged 16-18 and were killed by other children, often in gang-related situations, he said.

This is “a very, very serious issue,” Kock said, noting that the number of attempted murders against children also increased by 13.7 percent.

Figures show the murder level at its lowest since 1994 and serious violent crimes such as robbery, assault and attempted murder are down by 6.4 percent.

However, house robberies increased by 13.5 percent and carjackings by 4.4 percent, while robberies at businesses rose 47.4 percent.

The opposition Independent Democrats said that policing alone would not solve the crime problem. Instead, South Africa needed to deal with “poverty and socio-economic problems and the crisis within our social fabric,” party lawmaker Haniff Hoosen said in a statement.

South Africa’s crime-fighting abilities have been hampered by a leadership vacuum within the police. National Police Chief Jackie Selebi is facing corruption charges and is on extended leave.

Many also fear the planned disbanding of the prosecutor’s elite crime busting unit, known as the Scorpions, will worsen South Africa’s ability to combat crime.

Police have been left with a sense of uncertainty about the force’s future, and “uncertainty is one thing that we certainly don’t have the luxury of affording,” said analyst Johan Burger with the Pretoria-based Institute for Security Studies.

The police said, however, they would be ready for the 2010 soccer tournament, having received rands 665 million (US$84.5 million; euro53.6 million) for equipment including 10 water cannons, six helicopters and 10 unmanned aircraft fitted with cameras.

The country submitted its tournament security plan to the world soccer governing body in Geneva on Monday, police director Andre Pruis said.

“I think FIFA will be satisfied,” he said.

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Philippe Boucher
Pretoria, South Africa
This is an obvious lie concocted to appease FIFA’s World Cup jitters, not to mention other international investors. The government has long censored the truth on crime statistics, particularly in regards the ritual slaughter of up to 3000 white farmers.
I would advise people to stay far away from this barbaric, corrupt country.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
No denying the crime rate is high... but don’t be an idiot... when did 3000 white farmers get slaughtered? Its people like u that give a false perception of this country.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
You guys just want to live in the past. Can’t get past the fact that apartheid is over and that all people of this country have equal opportunities. The whites are not supreme anymore. The abuses you people inflicted on other races in South Africa were unspeakable ... people don’t forget shit like that.
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Grace
Quezon City, Philippines
Police are known to manipulate their statistics. That happens in most places in the world. Because if they don’t, they will look badder than necessary. :)

But there are crime watch groups and NGOs that can offer more realistic scenarios.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
Jan Lamprecht is some racist bastard.

Quote from anither forum ”Just to inform you that I’ve been threatened with some kind of retaliation against me for exposing that the pics on the www.crimexposouthafrica.co.za were not sent in by murder victims families but were taken from www.rotten.com. The fraudulent use was confirmed and was tracked to the racist Jan Lamprecht’s site www.africancrisis.org who supplied them.”



This is precisley the attitude of racist white losers that hold South Africa back
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Philippe Boucher
Pretoria, South Africa
It’s more than that, Grace. We hardly hear a peep about the ongoing farm killings from the mainstream media. The whole sordid business is being hushed up, to the extent that my countrymen like Farhaad are not even aware of it. Further, these attacks go beyond the ”regular” murderous attacks so common to this country - the torture and degradation of the victims reveals them as hate crimes, an early warning sign of mass genocide.

If it were whites perpetrating such vicious crimes on blacks, it would be emblazoned across every local and international headline. The only ”false perception” being projected here is that the ANC regime is in any way an improvement on the Apartheid regime.

Certainly, the Whites put their own interests first, as does any cultural group I might add, but they were responsible for far less violence and brutality than the ANC. Go compare how many black ”traitors” the ANC burnt, bludgeoned or stabbed to death in the townships against how were killed by the old security services.

The situation is becoming much the same as Zimbabwe, not to mention the rest of Africa. The country was at least relatively safe and prosperous under White rule, only to descend into third-world savagery soon after becoming ”liberated.”
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Philippe Boucher
Pretoria, South Africa
Farhaad, you have yet to learn the lesson that accusing people of racism does not automatically make you right.

While you may dispute the origin of those gruesome photos, you cannot deny there have been far, far too many innocent farmers murdered. Or perhaps you’d like to see more slaughter? After all, far from feeding the country, they are white racist losers who deserve to die. While no longer in power, they still somehow hold the country back - so death to them all! ”Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer,” as Peter Mokaba of the ANC so famously sang.

Don’t take my word for it though, people. A simple Google search on ”South African farm murders / genocide” will reveal the truth that the ANC government will not.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
Previously the government had a policy of racism... they held people back based on their skin colour. They prevented them from getting an education, accessing facilities etc... So may be the crimes weren’t violent... but some of the people were degraded and made to feel less human and those scars last a life time.

The government we have now is a government of national unity. Everyone is allowed to make themselves heard. We are all equal.

So the country might have been safer... but not everyone was prospering. ;)
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
I understand that the loads of white farmers have been killed and don’t deny it. But thousands of other people have been killed as well. Taking race out of the equation we are all affected by this crime wave. Crime has no boundaries.

So don’t make it sound like the whites farmers are the only ones getting affected by this.
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Grace
Quezon City, Philippines
Wow! This is some news. I didn’t realize the gravity of this situation. I’ve read and watched a little about this, whenever mainstream media permit. But it’s only now that this depth comes up.

What I’m interested to know is why the cover up, if there’s any. Why the lack of media on this?

That is what I’m really curious to find out. Why didn’t AP catch this from the ground?
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
Government has nothing to do with these attacks... Sure some of the attacks are violent ... but u can’t blame the government or say the government is behind these attacks.

Some of these attacks on these farm workers stem from working in horrible conditions where there basic human rights are violated. Some of these farm workers get paid about $8 a month.

Refer to link below.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/oct2003/farm-o02.shtml
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Grace
Quezon City, Philippines
Ok, so it is a labor problem - a widespread labor problem. That could be a logical possibility.

But the mystery shrouding this is what makes the outside world curious and start to doubt, and eventually make (maybe) uninformed comments and conclusions.

Are these murders solved? Though I’m sure not all of them are. Are they being investigated? It started in 1994, a long time ago.

What is the police’s statement regarding these? Official statement that can inform the press.

The police plays a crucial role in this whole scenario.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
I can’t comment for the police, however these farm attacks are investigated... not all of them solved unfortunately. Alot of illegal immigrants work on these farms as well... cheap labour... farmers don’t have to comply with labour laws etc ... as these people are not citizens of South Africa. So if a crime is committed its difficult to try and trace someone that is not a resident of this country.
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Farhaad
pretoria, South Africa
The bottom line is that South Africa has its problems like every other country. Yes we do have a high level of crime and Yes the government has to address it. But i think that being a fairly new democracy we have alot to learn and hopefully we will overcome these issues. i for one love this country and hope and pray that we can get through these problems as a nation. I just hate the idea of all the citizens of this country getting painted with the same brush. Sure u have your bad people ... but i feel there are mostly good people... The Eternal Optimist I will forever be :)
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Philippe Boucher
Pretoria, South Africa
Farhaad, are you honestly trying to tell me the present government doesn’t have a policy of racism?

What then do you call BEE and affirmative action? What do you call the sale of shares at a discount to black buyers? What do you call the government’s refusal to address the issue of white poverty? What do you call all the other examples I could cite, straight from the headlines? Hell, if in this nation blacks aren’t ”more equal,” why would the proud Chinese community work so hard to be officially recognised as ”black?”

You make a naive mistake in saying that people’s wounded feelings are more important than levels of violent crime, or say such other tangible realities as the availability of electricity, education, crime prevention, medical care, etc. Make no mistake, day-to-day survival is more important than pipedreams of universal equality and brotherhood. But try telling that to an ANC communist...

The degradation you speak of can only happen if one accepts the other side’s notions of racial superiority as true. As in right now, many people would have me feel ashamed of being white, for whatever historical reasons. I reject such foolishness totally. I am proud of my race. We are not perfect but we have done a lot more good than harm for the world, and for Africa. All the racist government policies in the world cannot change, nor can any amount of violence.
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Grace
Quezon City, Philippines
Now, that is the problem with illegal immigrants. They are nobody. They have no protected rights, as they are not documented.

But still, that doesn’t give any reason for the police to not pursue investigation since the crimes occurred on their turf.

I hope some brave investigative journalist gets to the bottom of all these, and end the speculation that envelopes it.
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Philippe Boucher
Pretoria, South Africa
By refusing to act, the government make themselves a part of the crime. That applies to the xenophobic violence, Mugabe’s brutal tyranny and the guerilla warfare being waged against farmers.
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